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gruffemm
24th August 2013, 10:47 AM
Are these safe to use?

Have bought PrintFile 35-7BXW pages. When I press finger on a pocket, without a negative in, it has that rainbow oily look - anyone else noticed that?

Also have to push negatives quite hard to slide them in and have read here about scratches...

http://photo.net/black-and-white-photo-film-processing-forum/00IeI2?start=0

Don't know what to make of this.

Bob
24th August 2013, 01:30 PM
Hi.

The "oily" look is just interference patterns - you get that when you touch two flat transparent surfaces together. It's probably a good thing - indicates how smooth the surface is. Glass negative carriers can cause this which is why they often use a textured glass on the side that sits on the (smoother) non-emulsion side of the negative.

I agree about having to push hard to get negatives in and I am not a fan of that but I've not found a suitable alternative.

Well, except for 5x4 sheet film for which I have bought 7"x5" packets that are essentially a flat tube. I slit one edge off with a trimmer to create a folder to take a sheet of film without any pushing. Static holds the "folder" together.

Mike O'Pray
24th August 2013, 02:18 PM
I have nearly all translucent as opposed to transparent pages. A mixture of Paterson and Kenro.

I suspect and that is all it is, a suspicion, that the translucent pages' texture might mean that negs slide easier.

The downside is that the negs can't be examined properly in the sleeve and can't be contact printed under a heavy plain glass sheet thereby making a Paterson Contact Printer redundant.

However if these two advantages of clearfile pages don't matter that much then it might be worth trying a translucent page.

Mike

alexmuir
24th August 2013, 03:38 PM
I use Printfile for 35 and 120. I have to say that I have been very pleased with them. I had been using Kenro transparent, but ended up with a batch that was impossible to use. No matter what I tried, I couldn't get the strips in. I find the Printfile ones much easier to load. The slots are open at both ends. I try to ensure the top and bottom of each slot is ' pulled apart' slightly before use. You can do this by squeezing together the edges of each slot ( if that makes sense!) Alex

Richard James
24th August 2013, 03:49 PM
I too use a mixture of Paterson and Kenro which are translucent as apposed to transparent and are made of paper. I prefer the paper ones because i think they could 'breath', i do not like the idea that moisture could be trapped within clear plastic and damage the films.
The interference rings (Newton's Rings) are nothing to worry about and show how smooth the plastic is. You do not get them with the paper neg files.

vincent
24th August 2013, 06:54 PM
I had the same difficulty trying to insert my 35mm negs in the Kenro sheets until I came up with the idea of inserting a scale ruler in to the pockets and slide it back and forth before I put in my negataives. It does work and once the negs are in they can taken out and put back in without any problem. I'm sure my idea is not original but it did mean that I didn't dump a whole packet of negative sleeves.

gruffemm
24th August 2013, 07:04 PM
Many thanks for all the advice.
Glad to hear the "oily" look is good sign.
Have decided to try several products - Printfile have already bought and some of your other suggestions. Wish it wasn't so expensive but film is precious.

big paul
24th August 2013, 10:12 PM
a couple of years ago I bought some kenro clear neg sleeves , my usual ones were kenro but were paper type ,these clear plastic type were driving me mad the strip of negs would only go so fare and seemed to bind with the plastic sleeves I had a scream and chucked them in the dustbin and swore never to buy them again ,and went back to my old type ,,,
last week I run out of 120 sleeves and asked my wife to get me some from camera shop in Romford when she came back she said that they had run out of the ones that I usury have so she got me the clear ones ,and guess what they are just as bad as the 35mm sleeves,,,,
I have found that the cheaper paper ones are better for me than the clear print through plastic ones........


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Mike O'Pray
24th August 2013, 10:55 PM
This problem of fitting and retrieving a strip of negs from clearfiles has prompted a memory I have.

Wasn't there a neg retriever you could buy that went under the negs for both insertion and retrieval. I think it was simply a length of flat plastic that you placed the negs onto, then inserted them into the file and then pulled out the retriever/inserter.

I don't think I have seen any such thing for a few years but does anyone else remember this device?

Mike

Bill
25th August 2013, 07:06 AM
I don't think I have seen any such thing for a few years but does anyone else remember this device?

Mike

Yes Mike, it was called a Neg Handler and was made in Canada. There was a previous thread that suggested Colab supplied/sold them but they don't appear now in a Google search. Handy and simple little device.

Bill

Mike O'Pray
25th August 2013, 11:02 AM
Thanks Bill. It is funny how things just disappear and yet the volume of neg processing probably hasn't gone down much if any since I last saw it advertised.

Mike

Martin Aislabie
26th August 2013, 06:29 PM
Are these safe to use?

Have bought PrintFile 35-7BXW pages. When I press finger on a pocket, without a negative in, it has that rainbow oily look - anyone else noticed that?

Also have to push negatives quite hard to slide them in and have read here about scratches...

http://photo.net/black-and-white-photo-film-processing-forum/00IeI2?start=0

Don't know what to make of this.

I've been using them for years without problems.

Yes, if you put dirty gritty Negs into any of these sort of pages you can scratch them - but its your fault - not the storage systems.

Put clean, grit free Negs in and keep them in a clear location and you don't have a problem.

The "Printfile Neg Systems" scratched my Negs is so much of a better line on a Forum than "I am such a nit-wit, I have managed to scratch my Negs by rubbish house keeping !"

Of course if you want the best Neg Holders then go for the Secol ones - http://www.silverprint.co.uk/ProductByGroup.asp?PrGrp=921

Martin

gruffemm
26th August 2013, 07:15 PM
Thanks.

Don't know whether my negatives have anything on them that would cause scratches - can't see any grit but there's a few white dots, some of which are loose, some stuck to the negative.

Do you dust your negatives before storing, what do you use for that?

big paul
26th August 2013, 07:33 PM
gruffemm

its up to you if you are finding that you don't get on with theses film sleeves try another type, photography and working in the darkroom should be fun ,what suites some people don't suite others ,so bin them and try some others ,,good luck,,,,,



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Mike O'Pray
26th August 2013, 08:48 PM
gruffemm

what suites some people don't suite others ,so bin them and try some others ,,good luck,,,,,
www.essexcockney.com

Given that several here don't have problems with the clearfiles I'd offer them for sale. There should be some takers

Mike

big paul
26th August 2013, 08:53 PM
fair point mike ....





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Carl V
26th August 2013, 10:29 PM
Just to add my tuppence worth, I've had no problems whatsoever with Print File sheets. I've always found the negatives slide in and out very easily and definitely do not scratch the film. Strangely, the ones I've had issues with in the past were the Kenro sheets.