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Comparison scans of prints made from a 5x4 negative of Daveís.
Daveís was made on Foma Fomatone FB paper.
Bobís was printed on Kentmere VC Select RC Lustre.
Date: Fri, 30, December, 2011 ∑ Views: 4103
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Fri, 30, December, 2011 3:54pm

These prints are from a 5x4 negative I made in 2003 and have never made a print from it that really satisfied me. I think Bob has done a fine job of bringing out the detail by a regime of dodging and burning coupled with a dose of liquid light to release the shadow detail whilst retaining that in the highlights.
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Martin Aislabie

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Fri, 30, December, 2011 5:18pm

Nice idea Dave


B&W Mag used to do the same thing - and I always found it fascinating how two different people would produce completely different prints from the same Neg.


Any chance of a scan of the Neg to see what you guys were working with ?


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Fri, 30, December, 2011 5:22pm

I don't have the facility for scanning negs.
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Mike O'Pray
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Registered: October 2008
Location: Daventry, Northants
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Fri, 30, December, 2011 8:35pm

What I find amazing is the browness of the Foma paper compared with the Kentmere. In the absence of info to the contrary I am assuming that neither party used any toner. I am also assuming that Dave decided to draw the viewer's attention to the millstones by burning in the edges. The stones stand out to my eye better in Dave's version but Bob's is a more inviting and more airy place to be


A description by Bob of his D&B map and the bits subject to the liquid light including strength of solution would be very instructive.


I appreciate that the site and contributors's time precludes as detailed a cover of each interpretation as the old B&W mag used to give but any details would be much appreciated.


Thanks


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Sat, 31, December, 2011 7:58am

Mike, Fomatone is a slow warmtone paper. My print was developed in Agfa Neutol WA (which is a warmtone developer) for 2 minutes. The exposure was 60.4seconds at Grade 1 through a 135mm lens set at f11. The vignetting was the result of an additional 2 stop edge burn. I shall scan and post Bob's printing details as a pdf in the negative exchange forum.
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vincent

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Sun, 1, January, 2012 5:03pm

While Bob's interpertation of Dave's neg is more open and brighter than Dave's I feel that it could be printed with an increase in the Grade number. If that was say at 2.5 filter I would like to see what effect a 3.5 filter would have on it.

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Cheers Vincent - Not afraid of the dark
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Steve O

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Thu, 12, January, 2012 10:11am

I'm divided in my opinion here with Bob's print being more gentle and balanced but Dave's does grab my attention and is more emotional.


I think Bob's suit a bit of gold toning to give a look very similar to Eddie Ephraums in Wistmans wood.





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BobRob
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Sat, 21, January, 2012 5:42pm

gold indeed...on my pension !


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