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Terry S


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Not having taken much of late that I am happy with, I've been delving into the huge pile of unprinted
negatives from recent years.


This one was taken in Silvertown, East London, very near to where I used to live for twenty years, on a 120 film plastic Holga camera. These cameras do get bad press, but if you can get the focusing right, as the camera focusing is based on symbols on the lens, the central area of a neg can be quite sharp. I say can be, as it seems that each individual camera gives itís own individual results. All part of the fun I suppose.


It was a very sunny day and this window was on the end of a very long set of buildings which are garages. The circular shape immediately caught my eye and I like the picture very much but I do remember putting it into a club competition and the judge basically said that he Ďcouldnít see the point of ití. Does there always have to be a reason or a story behind everything I thought at the time and still do? One can like something, surely, just for the sake of it?
Date: Fri, 28, December, 2012 ∑ Views: 2113
Filesize: 39.2kb, 91.7kbDimensions: 1000 x 977 ∑
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Keywords: Holga. HP5, Ilfosol S, Silvertown, East London
Film make, size & rating:: Ilford HP5
Film developer & temp:: Ilford Ilfosol S
Lens Focal Length, aperture & speed:: Holga = fixed lens and aperture
Tripod used Y or N:: No
Paper:: Ilford RC Pearl
Paper developer & temp:: Ilford MG 20C

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vincent

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Location: Co. Kildare Ireland
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Fri, 28, December, 2012 6:16pm

Terry to me that is one decent HOLGA image. The subject matter is ideal for showing your camera at its best and its appeal to other photographers. I don't use one myself but several of my photographic friends have them and really enjoy the results. I like the way the walls bend in at the sides while the centre remains true.

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MartyNL

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Fri, 28, December, 2012 8:44pm

Judges' what do they know!


Symmetry, line, form, shape, texture, pattern, tone etc. are reason enough to take this beautiful photo, Terry.

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Terry S
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Sat, 29, December, 2012 11:32am

Appreciate the comments guys! :-)


When a Holga does it well, it's very satisfying indeed and this has always been one of my favourites. It especially suits the square neg format.


Being a judge for a long time myself, in the past, I can happily agree with your comment Marty... what do judges know indeed!?!?!? :-)


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Sat, 29, December, 2012 3:48pm

I am now the proud owner of this print which I really enjoyed. I think the use of the Holga as added to the overall look of the print leaving no doubt about what the main subject was.
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Terry S
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Sun, 30, December, 2012 11:16am

Thanks for the comment Andy. :-)


I keep meaning to frame a copy to put on my own wall, as it's one of my favourites.


Glad you like it. :-)


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AlanJones
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Sat, 12, January, 2013 10:20pm

I share you thoughts on judges. Last year I made an official complaint about one who attended a meeting of Cambridge Camera Club when I was a member. At a club competition meeting the judge made a comment 'Oh no, not another bloody train' and then proceeded to mark down the members work. Some were excellent shots and deserved a prize. I did not exhibit or enter any of the competitions during my membership but made an official complaint about his attitude and suitability.


It was hard work getting anywhere with the complaint and eventually I got to the regional federation level and posed the question 'is this person fit to be a judge and should be removed'?


When I eventually got a reply, a rather lame excuse, I was told they were having great difficulty in finding people who were willing to give up their time to judge.


I have let my subscriptions run out and no longer a member.
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Terry S
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Sun, 13, January, 2013 1:57pm

Hi Alan,


I think anyone who has been to or belonged to a photo club of any sort, will have come across judges that they disagree with. It's par for the course really.


BUT, I totally agree with you when any judge shows so much distain for work JUST because they don't like the subject. A judge should be OBJECTIVE and this is the first rule and point made at 'judges teaching days.'


I used to be a judge myself for a number of years. I did this as I was fed up with some of the comments that some judges made at my old club and then I got the usual 'Well if you think that you can do better...' type comments.


I would like to believe that in the period that I did the judging circuit, that I gave fair points and criticism for all the work that I looked at.


I quite often saw work that I wouldn't have taken; that didn't appeal to me subject wise etc etc but I would talk the members through my thought processes and award what I thought to be a reasonable mark for the work on show that night. I quite often gave very high marks to work in this category.


NEVER would I ever say a piece of work is 'Rubbish' and then give it a measly mark, as I have seen some judges do. Other comments like 'This one doesn't nothing for me. Five,' are also of no use to anyone but it happens so often, which doesn't give judges a good reputation at all.


Yes, judges may be harder to find but in my previous club, we introduced nights where members would talk about their and other members work, as we honestly felt that this was much better for the members and the to and fro of questions and answers improved their work no end.


At present I am doing a degree course in photography and haven't put any work in to be 'judged' at my local club for quite a while now. This was because I got to the point that I wanted to produce work that I LIKED and I didn't give a hoot to be honest, what any judge thought of it. It ISN'T the type work that is EXPECTED to be shown in club comps and that was the main thing. Enter too many club comps and you find yourself following certain rules that are talked about so much and your work becomes part of the norm.


Take a look at the pictures that are produced on this site. Some of there are great in my eyes, but would they do well in a club comp? Probably not because they don't follow the rules.


I don't go to my local club anymore to enter the comps, although I do enjoy looking at the work that other members and visiting lectures show us. Maybe with this in mind, if you enjoyed your club otherwise, maybe you should do the same, for I mainly go for the social aspect.


Also, as you have done, you DO need to make your thoughts known to your club. I have found that the bookers of judges at clubs do listen to comments and when enough people comment and say that a particular judge is rubbish etc then they will stop being booked. Only then will these judges hopefully get the idea and change their attitude when the bookings begin to dry up.


Talking of drying up, this rant has taken it out of me and I'm now in dire need of a cuppa tea!


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