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Terry S


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My picture for this round is off of a recent roll of Rollei ISO 400 120 film, that I shot as a test film for a stand development test on my Fuji GZ645zi. The film was then stand developed in Rodinal for an hour, in 6ml of the developer with 600ml of water at about 20C. Inverted about 8 times at the beginning and then the same at about half way through development time. Note that there’s a lot of ‘abouts’ in this process, which is why I wanted to try it out, as everything is so laid back! It was done as a comparison test to the same type of film that was shot during the same week in a Holga, where the exposures are even more laid back.


In both cases, the films came out very printable, especially the ones in the Fuji 6 x 4.5 camera. It must be said though that both films were shot on very sunny days and recent comments exchanged on FADU seem to suggest that although stand development works on sunny days, it is not quite so good on more overcast ones, which is a shame. That of course won’t put me off trying a film under these conditions, as it may just call for longer than the ‘standard’ 60 minutes development time. I shall see after further tests.


Anyway, this is a view over Leigh, in Essex, just a few miles along the road from me, where the road goes down to some fish mongers sheds. I liked the levels of the foreground, middle and background.


Although I have used RC for many years, I am now enjoying printing on FB again much more, when I have the time. I'm enjoying the end results very much and I do seem to prefer the FB prints compared to RC versions, mostly for their different overall colour and tones, along with their more tactile qualities in the paper.
· Date: Sun, 1, September, 2013 · Views: 1443
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Keywords: Rollei ISO 400; Fuji GZ645 Zi; stand development; Rodinal
Film make, size & rating:: Rollei ISO 400
Film developer & temp:: Rodinal STAND developed at APPROX 20C
Lens Focal Length, aperture & speed:: approx 35mm in 645 format
Tripod used Y or N:: No
Paper:: Ilford FB Matt
Paper developer & temp:: Ilford MG developer @ 20C in Nova slot developing tank

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Mike O'Pray
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Sun, 1, September, 2013 8:23pm

It might of course be the scan rather than the print but it looks very high contrast to me with some featureless shadows. What this otherwise potentially gratuitous comment is leading to is that if this is the effect of stand in high contrast, sunny conditions then it might be that stand is potentially as good if not actually better for overcast conditions.


I might be wrong but I'd have a lot of confidence that stand dev under less harsh lighting will turn out OK.


Certainly seems worth a go, Terry


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Sun, 1, September, 2013 8:24pm

It might of course be the scan rather than the print but it looks very high contrast to me with some featureless shadows. What this otherwise potentially gratuitous comment is leading to is that if this is the effect of stand in high contrast, sunny conditions then it might be that stand is potentially as good if not actually better for overcast conditions.


I might be wrong but I'd have a lot of confidence that stand dev under less harsh lighting will turn out OK.


Certainly seems worth a go, Terry


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Sun, 1, September, 2013 8:24pm

It might of course be the scan rather than the print but it looks very high contrast to me with some featureless shadows. What this otherwise potentially gratuitous comment is leading to is that if this is the effect of stand in high contrast, sunny conditions then it might be that stand is potentially as good if not actually better for overcast conditions.


I might be wrong but I'd have a lot of confidence that stand dev under less harsh lighting will turn out OK.


Certainly seems worth a go, Terry


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Sun, 1, September, 2013 8:24pm

It might of course be the scan rather than the print but it looks very high contrast to me with some featureless shadows. What this otherwise potentially gratuitous comment is leading to is that if this is the effect of stand in high contrast, sunny conditions then it might be that stand is potentially as good if not actually better for overcast conditions.


I might be wrong but I'd have a lot of confidence that stand dev under less harsh lighting will turn out OK.


Certainly seems worth a go, Terry


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Sun, 1, September, 2013 10:25pm

Hi Terry. I admire your determination to experiment!
Now, I don't know as much as I'd like to about black and white processing, but my understanding is this- during development the dev reduces the silver halide to silver metal. The dev has a certain activity, or capacity, to reduce silver halide. The more a particular area of film has been exposed the more reduction it needs.
Agitation keeps circulating the dev to bring fresh, active dev into contact with the areas needing most reduction. So, excessive agitation boosts contrast, too little leads to low contrast negs.
Stand development, as I understand it, it primarily a way of controlling excessive contrast.
The areas of generously exposed film need lots of reduction, and so the dev in contact with them quickly exhausts and (without agitation) development stops. Meanwhile thin, shadow areas keep developing for longer.
Stand comes into it's own when an image contains a very high subject brightness range.
There's some stuff on LFF which illustrates this- will try and find a link.
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Mon, 2, September, 2013 10:52am

Thanks for the comments guys (FOUR of the same in your case Mike. Nah!)


MIKE: The scan has lost the detail in the shadow areas and the print is a LOT more open in those areas.


As said, I will definitely be trying the same process for a test film or two on an overcast day or two though and will post the results as and when.


SKELLUM: Reading your comments, I seems to know even less than you about the chemistry side of things. Smile I'm very much like a driver who knows very little about the engine and the mechanics etc but as long as the car does what I want it to do, ie get me from A to B, then that's fine... The same with the chemistry side of photography, in that I will experiment to find the result I want but am non too the wise how it works at the bottom line, but so far, it seems to be working for me. Smile


The experiments will continue! :D


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Mon, 2, September, 2013 8:37pm

Yes I am better than "New York, New York" as that was only good enough to be named twice.


Goodness knows what happened there. No way did I submit it four times


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