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vincent



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This a 5 x 7 print which a friend of mine would like a larger version of, in order to frame for her house. I usually print 12x8 on a 12x16 sheet. My problem is that glaring street light reflection in the river which spoils the photograph utterly in my opinion. Any ideas how I might eliminate it when printing in the darkroom.
Since she wants me to sign it I rather not have that flaw ( which she does not see) open to gaze of others.
All ideas (except digital) will be appreciated.


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Date: Wed, 21, January, 2009 Views: 4399
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Barry

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Wed, 21, January, 2009 9:45pm

One option Vincent would be to flash the bottom portion of the image. This would tone down the white base?

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Thu, 22, January, 2009 9:47pm

I agree with Barry, I don't think you need to get rid of it, just lower the high key tone a little.
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Mike O'Pray
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Thu, 22, January, 2009 11:08pm

I know this is at night and I haven't got an image in my mind of a bright reflection in water at night but I did see a similar effect on a reservoir late in the afternoon with a setting sun in the last few days and the reflection was exactly like this in reality.


Your specular highlight struck me as exactly in keeping with what it looked like on the night.


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Fri, 23, January, 2009 12:17am

There seems to be plenty detail in the shadows. A contrast mask would would reduce high values dramtically but its a lot of work.
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Fri, 23, January, 2009 12:20am

I wouldn't normally suggest it but since its also got those awful power lines running through it, I'd scan it and do the dirty on it before sending to Ilford to print it on RC paper. They'll never know;)
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Fri, 23, January, 2009 1:36am

Actually if you removed the street lamp, how would you explain that bright white reflection on the water ?
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Barry

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Fri, 23, January, 2009 7:45am

If you were to take this image again, perhaps an upside down graduated ND filter would help?

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vincent

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Fri, 23, January, 2009 8:49pm

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I will try the printing suggestions and I'm also considering photographing it again using my xpan and ND filters.

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Cheers Vincent - Not afraid of the dark
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Les McLean

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Mon, 2, February, 2009 11:04pm

Vincent, you can try burning in the highlight with a number 5 filter and then post flash the whole of the base of the image.
The burn with the 5 filter will put no tone into the very bright specular highlight bit it will darken the very small ripples in the water. Following the grade 5 burn post flash it after carying out a test to determine how much exposure to give the post flash. The effect of this will be to put just a small amount of tone in the specular highlights which, together with the small amount of detail the grade 5 burn puts into the ripples will produce the effect of water with a bright highlight rather than a burnt out highlight.
You will need to give a huge amount of grade 5 burn and give enough post flash exposure to slightly fog the highlight. be careful not to give too much post flash exposure as this will produce a muddy grey tone that looks fogged.
I promise that this will work, I've done this on a number of my images.
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vincent

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Sun, 8, February, 2009 8:52pm

Thank you Les for your advice. Fintan and Peter speak so highly of you that I feel duty bound to try your solution when I come to produce the print. Past experience is everything when these problems occur.

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Monoman

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Tue, 10, February, 2009 11:30am

One consideration is that the customer is always right! It might just be that it is the reflection which attracts her so much and if you remove it, it may no longer be the picture that she wanted! Worth checking before you go to all that work!

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Reuben
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Fri, 20, January, 2012 11:48am

Its a striking image, but for me the water reflection does hold too much attention for for me. Burning in the reflection to bring it down would be my first idea, but Les's comments are far more subtle and sound ideal. I personally would try that before re-shooting to see the effects it has


I look forward to the finished version and how it was done.
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