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MartyNL 19th May 2020 07:14 PM

Timing when using multiple toners
 
I'm wondering about how long a print should stay in a toner when using multiple toners?

Would it be best to add the individual toning times together OR would it be best to divide the time between the toners based on the time of completion?


Hope it makes sense!

Richard Gould 19th May 2020 08:48 PM

I never time toners at all, for sepia I bleach until it reaches the depth I want, for instance, I might just bleach back just the highlights then tone until completed, If split toning, say for instance sepia then blue, I would bleach back the highlights, sepia tone, then in the blue toner until I reached the effect I wanted,When I started toning I would time every process, but I very soon found that diluting the bleach a lot more than suggested, I use 50ml in 1 liter of water, same for the toner, plus 40ml of the control to 1 liter, and for blue I again halve the normal dilution to give me more control, but I leave the timer alone and do it all by eye
Richard

B&W Neil 20th May 2020 08:52 AM

I do the same as Richard - everything judged by eye.

Neil.

skellum 22nd May 2020 08:42 PM

Good Evening Marty.
Having read your post again, it seems you are following instructions which offer suggested times for toning. Is that correct?
I have used selenium, gold, and a couple of different sepias.
All are toned for appearance. I try to have good light to work in, and keep a spare print beside the toning try as a reference. This (mostly) works for me just fine.
If your toners come with recommended times, I suspect they will be additive if you are using multiple toners. Dividing the time between different baths will certainly reduce the effect of each one.
What paper are you planning to use?
Despite some internet gossip most RC papers will tone, and fibre papers need thorough washing after. I always use a bath of fresh wash-aid for toned prints.
Good Luck!

MartyNL 28th May 2020 05:00 PM

Hi Colin, I’ve put my first toning tests into an album rather than post them here.

www.film-and-darkroom-user.org.uk/forum/album.php?albumid=656

Mike O'Pray 28th May 2020 06:28 PM

Marty I have commented in your album section but I am confused about the information on both sets but it is the KRST strips that I have confined my questions to

Mike

MartyNL 28th May 2020 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O'Pray (Post 133633)
Marty I have commented in your album section but I am confused about the information on both sets but it is the KRST strips that I have confined my questions to

Mike

My fault, hopefully it makes more sense now!:slap:

Mike O'Pray 28th May 2020 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartyNL (Post 133634)
My fault, hopefully it makes more sense now!:slap:

I am still not sure. Have a look at my reply in the album.

Thanks

Mike

MartyNL 29th May 2020 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O'Pray (Post 133636)
I am still not sure. Have a look at my reply in the album.

Thanks

Mike

And now?

photomi7ch 29th May 2020 08:55 AM

I have found that toned FB prints can improve there tone with time.


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