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TonyZ 7th August 2020 09:04 PM

Eastman 5399vn film.
 
Hi All,

I was just browsing t'ebay when I came across an ad for bulk Eastman 5399vn film.

I was going to post a link, but since I'm new here I don't want to break any rules yet :)

Anyway, it proports to be a positive slide film Ektachrome 100vn.

I did look up what type of process and it appears to "vnf-1" and "rvnp" a rapid process film for news back in the day apparently.

Does any one know anything about this process and is it worth giving it a go as 100ft is about £25 and 50ft is only £15 quid delivered.

Does anyone know if another slide process will work with it.

Many thanks

TonyZ

alexmuir 9th August 2020 11:59 AM

Eastman 5399vn film.
 
Are you sure it is a reversal film? The VN stands for Video News. They made a lot of Super8 and 16mm film that was known as Ektachrome VNF, but I think it was a negative stock which was reversed when run through a Telecine converter. It was reversed electronically. That’s how they did some special effects on TV shows like Top of the Pops.
Alex


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TonyZ 10th August 2020 06:51 PM

Hi Alex,

To be honest I don't know anything about it apart from they don't make the chemicals anymore, apparently?!

Saw it advertised as very cheap film and thought I might have a play with it.

I've ordered a small 50ft roll, could be garbage but it'll be fun finding out.

If you know anything else I would really appreciate any more info.

Many thanks for your help.

Tony Z

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TonyZ 10th August 2020 06:53 PM

Although I thought the listing may have mentioned reversal film.

Z

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Mike O'Pray 10th August 2020 07:55 PM

Tony it is certainly worth asking the e-bay seller a few specific questions such as it is reversal and more to the point can it be developed in today's processing chemicals

£15 isn't cheap if nothing can be done with it in my book.

Mike

big paul 10th August 2020 08:14 PM

if you can get a week mucking about with it its well worth it ,if it works its a bonus ,i just offered somebody £25 for some camera stuff if i get it i will have at lest two weeks worth of mucking about £12.50 a week well worth it to me ...Have fun

alexmuir 10th August 2020 08:55 PM

I did a quick search, and it is described as a ‘print film’. That tends to be negative material, in movie speak. You could try normal C41 colour negative chemistry, or ECN2 which is used for colour movie print film. There is a lot of this type of film around just now, CineStill being one example. The difference between it, and normal colour print film is that the movie film has a ‘remjet’ layer. This has to be removed if the negatives are to be printed (or scanned). I think CineStill do that before the film is sold. The ECN2 chemistry does it. C41 doesn’t, but you can buy a separate remjet remover. As Paul said, it’s worth a punt.
Alex


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TonyZ 10th August 2020 08:56 PM

Thanks guys, I'm sure I'll have fun whatever, I usually do.

And there's even a datasheet!

So when it all goes sadly wrong I can look at some graphs!

https://www.kodak.com/uploadedfiles/...2414_h2414.pdf

TonyZ 15th August 2020 09:20 AM

Hi All,

Thought I'd update.

Got the film yesterday, noticed a few 1-2 mm spots on the film, maybe one or two a frame or so.

Probably say this is down to high humidity in storage but I'm sure you guys will probably know more.

I loaded a roll and took approximately 20 shots setting my camera to its lowest iso, 12.

Took shots starting with a shutter speed of 1 second and then doubling to 1/2 sec, 1/4 sec, 1/8 sec etc.

I wasn't expecting anything to come out at all but to my surprise it did!

Unfortunately the reel in my processing tank came unclipped during processing so not all the frames came out as the film was touching in places.

This was processed in Rodinal 1+50, stopped with water and fixed using Ilford rapid fixer. These came surprisingly clear compared to other colour films cross processed in B+W chems.

If you want full details let me know and I'll post them up.

Not the greatest film in the world but definitely an interesting feel to the results.

The photos attached were taken and inverted on my phone so probably not the best quality.

Looking forward to playing around with this and maybe processing in C-41 and E-6.

To be quite honest for the simplicity of processing in B+W I'm happy. 😁

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DaveC 20th October 2020 12:08 PM

Hi Tony,

Would you mind posting the full details of your development process?
Your results look great so would be useful to have your process as a starting point.

Thanks,
Dave


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