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Old 11th November 2020, 01:33 PM
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Default Fomapan Classic 100 -confused from Essex

I developed a roll of Fomapan Classic 100 last night ,and when I was cutting them up and putting them in sleeves ,I notest the word ULTRA on the edge of the film ,now I am easily confused because on the box it says Fomapan classic 100 ,Now a question for all you Fomapan users , is Classic the same as Ultra .
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Hi Paul this is a screen shot from the fomapan 100 classic film data sheet.
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Old 11th November 2020, 02:37 PM
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Assuming it is 120 all the fomapan 120 film's are edge marked Ultra, got me confused the first time I developed some Fomapan 120, as did the blue base they used to use, but then, I am easily confused
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Old 11th November 2020, 02:59 PM
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I have a feeling that the word Ultra is what a company called Freestyle calls its films which allegedly are rebadged Foma films

If this is not the explanation then it just seems one heck of a coincidence

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Old 11th November 2020, 03:37 PM
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Mike your thinking of Freestyle's arista films, which are the re badged fomapan film's there is 35mm which is Arista edu and I think they call their 120 arista edu ultra, but the word Ultra on the foma films have been side printed for as long as I have been using them, around 25 years,which is before Freestyle re badged the foma film, I think, at one time they re badged Kodak film's then when they got to expensive they went to Foma, on their data sheet the state the 120 films are edge marked Ultra
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- as did the blue base they used to use -
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I developed my first Fomapan the other day (400 120, also edge-marked 'Ultra') and the blue took me by surprise also.
Seems like a particularly 'intense' backing, wasn't entirely
removed by the developer (ID11), even though it turned blue, and then actually turned my yellow indicator stop bath green - never seen that happen before!
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Old 11th November 2020, 05:32 PM
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I developed my first Fomapan the other day (400 120, also edge-marked 'Ultra') and the blue took me by surprise also.
Seems like a particularly 'intense' backing, wasn't entirely
removed by the developer (ID11), even though it turned blue, and then actually turned my yellow indicator stop bath green - never seen that happen before!
they havent used the blue base for a few years, the green is the anti halation layer on 120, not there on 35mm, I have never had any chemicals turn blue, an intense Green with Rodinal, and with ID11 stock the green sort of build's up over the 10 films , and the stop bath with ID11 tends to go green, not so much with Rodinal which seems to remove more with the developer, Doesn't seem to affect the developer wit ID11, just a sort of sick green, lovely film though, thats why In have stuck with it over the years,

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Thanks Richard. That clears it up. Maybe with the word Ultra already there Freestyle made a virtue of a necessity so to speak by including the word Ultra in their name for what is a Foma film

What is it that the marketing characters call this- product differentiation is it?

In other words a "con" that you have a "new" film

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Old 11th November 2020, 06:49 PM
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Thanks Richard. That clears it up. Maybe with the word Ultra already there Freestyle made a virtue of a necessity so to speak by including the word Ultra in their name for what is a Foma film

What is it that the marketing characters call this- product differentiation is it?

In other words a "con" that you have a "new" film

Mike
There is an Ultrafine from, I think, B@H
, but from what I read over on Photrio it is not Foma re branded, but I am not sure where it comes from,it all seems to get a little confusing the other side of the pond
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,it all seems to get a little confusing the other side of the pond
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Richard, yes, I have noticed that as well

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