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Old 5th February 2011, 07:59 PM
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Default D3200 in 120 and Xtol Development Times

I have done a bit of googling on this and found some times on Unblinkingeye by John Hicks and Paul Harris, both of whom use this combo at dilutions of 1+1 and 1+2. John Hicks' times seem to be confirmed as good by some others on other forums but of course one can have no idea of who they are.

It is always nice to deal with users as on FADU whom you know and trust.

I know we have Xtol users here but do we have any who have tried this combo?

Unfortunately there are no times given by Kodak and while Ilford do give times with Xtol it is for stock only and I suspect two things:

1. Stock may not give the speed needed for more than say true speed of say 1000-1250
2. D3200 is a film where Ilford times tend to understate what's needed as it does with DDX( dev for next speed up tends to be the better bet)

Interestingly the times used by two Photographers on Unblinkingeye for D3200 are very close to the times quoted by Kodak for PT3200( quite a bot more than Ilford times) so the two films may be very close which is probably logical and on this evidence the Kodak times for PT3200 may be the better bet for D3200.

I look forward to anybody's input.

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Mike
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Old 5th February 2011, 08:55 PM
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Xtol and D3200 work nice together. Below are the times I use for box speed and pushing it 2 stops... Have a look at the massive dev chart also, the times up there for this combo are a good starting point from what I remember...

- ilford delta 3200 film (rated at iso3200), dev'd in xtol 1:1 24c for 18 minutes
- ilford delta 3200 film (rated at iso12800), dev'd in xtol stock 24c for 12.5 minutes
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Old 5th February 2011, 10:44 PM
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Mike,

I've never been very happy with D3200. If I push film (which I do all the time shooting jazz), then I just use HP5 and push it to 1600/3200 in XTOl 1:1 using the standard Kodak published times. The grain on HP5 is minimal using XTOL even at 3200. Here's a few examples of HP5 at 1600 in XTOL

http://topoxforddoc.zenfolio.com/p84...8916#h317c54c5
http://topoxforddoc.zenfolio.com/p63...b8809#ha8b8809
http://topoxforddoc.zenfolio.com/p35...625d2#hcd625d2

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Old 5th February 2011, 11:35 PM
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Thanks both. Martin, from what I can see, the MDC sadly lacks anything but the Ilford times for stock usage and I suspect quotes a time that is less than needed.

However the good news is that your times which you have used are those given by Paul Harris who is one of the two photographers quoted in Unblinkingeye so more confirmation that it works

Charlie, based on your evidence it may be that I could have bought HP5+ and still had good negs at 3200 and I have bought some HP5+ rolls as well but at least with having some D3200 I can compare and contrast the two films shot at EI 1600 and 3200.

If D3200 isn't really any better at even the higher speed of 3200 then I can save my money in the future as HP5+ is quite a lot cheaper.

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