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Old 19th August 2009, 03:23 PM
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So I am off to college again in September and after doing the darkroom course.

Now the darkroom I know has a a proccessor in there, so print, dev,dry in 90secs and I know people have put through ordinary Ilford Muligrade IV and they look fine.

However I am going off Gloss paper and thinking of using the RC Warmtone Paper than Ilford do.

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Do you need warmtone paper developer to get the best out of it or because it is a Multigrade variation then going throu the proccess will be ok?
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Unless the processor is set up for a specific paper / developer combination the best you will get is OK results. If you want to get the very best out of any product then I suggest hand processing is the way to go; if possible.
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I agree with Dave,to get the best out of the multigrade warm tone, or any warm tone paper, then hand processing is the best,and I would suggest that you use either the harman warmtone developer or the agfa neutol wt Richard
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If you use Resin Coated paper this would work with the processor they have, but I would go for Fiber Based paper and tray develop. Longer wash times and more hassle drying, but you can't beat the quality. I too am not keen on glossy finish, FB papers even in glossy are far more subtle than RC when air dried, and you can get matt finish if you prefer.

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Thinking on this further I suggest the best way is to buy a pack of ten sheets and try it against standard papers to see the difference and judge your preference. It's not lightly that you will be able to change developers since I assume that they will be provided by the college.
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Thank you for your input

Think I will see if I can get a "sample" pack of warmtone ilford and try it in the processor to see what it turns out like.

I agree that using either FB or hand processing in trays will be far superior, but as I do not have a darkroom at home and college is only 3hrs a week (well less after you have chatted, coffed and fannyed about) time is a bit short.

Yes I know I will have to try and sort a darkroom out. Now where did I put that hammer
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Be careful of the machine process at collage. I've used a collage machine if the cheimicals are not fresh you will have a warmtone print wether you want one or not.
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Not sure if the course you are doing is an evening course nor how far away the college is nor how easy it is to get there but I found that on my evening course that once the number of students settled down as they do after a couple of weeks then a quiet word with the tutor allowed me to turn up occasionally on the parallel course running on another evening and also gave me entry a little earlier than the the official times. Maybe my college's tutor was particularly relaxed but it certainly helped me get extra hours in.

I think Dave's suggestion about getting a sampler of 10 is good advice. Ilford WT has become particularly expensive and it may not be worth the cost of investing in a box of 50/100 until you are sure.

My experience was that the warmth is quite subtle and I didn't find myself saying:" WT, where have you been all my life!" :

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The Pearl RC paper finish that Ilford make is quite nice.

It gives the prints a more subtle appearance than the gloss.

Paper tone and finish are a very personal thing and different subjects work better on some colour/surface combinations than others.

It’s worth investing a bit of time and money investigating few different paper tones and finishes to find a combination that works for you.

Don't forget to consider Ilford Cooltone - I like it - but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea

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For what it's worth and adding to Martin's comments I found that I could detect a bigger difference in the coolness of Cooltone paper from MG than the difference of WT to MG. Cooltone really was colder looking. I should add however that I developed it with the now defunct CT developer that Ilford has now abandoned and wasn't able to compare it with CT paper in MG developer.

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