Support our Sponsors, they keep FADU free:   AG Photographic   The Imaging Warehouse   Process Supplies   RH Designs   Second-hand Darkroom Supplies  

Notices

Go Back   Film and Darkroom User > Equipment > Cameras - Large Format

  ***   Click here for the FADU 2015/2014 Yearbooks   ***

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12th July 2016, 05:30 PM
Chrisvclick Chrisvclick is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Wales Uk, Gods Garden
Posts: 100
Default using a 1/4 plate glass darkslide ?

Picked up a 1/4 plate camera today. One of Houghtons creations, a klito with 9 darkslides. Course these are usually using glass plates and i know there is a way to use them with film but not seen any conversions . Anyone got any pics ?
__________________
Is there a level below "in the poop" ?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12th July 2016, 05:40 PM
monst's Avatar
monst monst is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: crystal palace
Posts: 65
Default

you can sometimes find cut film sheaths which can be loaded with film and then these act as the plate would in the holder but can't recall ever seeing any in 1/4 plate size. it's just a light sheet metal with 3 edges folded over to hold the film.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12th July 2016, 05:44 PM
Chrisvclick Chrisvclick is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Wales Uk, Gods Garden
Posts: 100
Default

These have a shallow spring loaded recess that the plate goes in. If i just put film into them the springs will push it against the darkslide and it will get scratched up (?) . Feel just a thin piece of say card with the film in front may work but want to see what others have done
__________________
Is there a level below "in the poop" ?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12th July 2016, 05:54 PM
Lostlabours Lostlabours is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: West Midlands/Aegean
Posts: 1,988
Default

I have a few Kodak Quarter plate film inserts, I picked up a box of NIB ones a couple of years ago. The Kodak ones are pressings and better than the plainsheet metal ones. They do appear on Ebay.

Unfortunately I sold my spares, I have quite a few Quarter plate cameras. With wood/brass quarter plate cameras it's possible to make a conversion plate and use a post WWII Graflex or similar 6x9 roll film back.

The metal cameras using Klito quarter plate holders holders will accept early (pre WWII) Rollex or Rada 6x9 roll film holders and there's plenty around usually relatively cheaply. You need to be careful as there's variations to the type of edge fit etc.

Ian
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12th July 2016, 06:00 PM
Lostlabours Lostlabours is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: West Midlands/Aegean
Posts: 1,988
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrisvclick View Post
Picked up a 1/4 plate camera today. One of Houghtons creations, a klito with 9 darkslides. Course these are usually using glass plates and i know there is a way to use them with film but not seen any conversions . Anyone got any pics ?
All sheet film sizes are nominal and a fraction smaller than the plate size, this was originally to allow for the use of film inserts in plate holders. It's not changed.

It's relatively easy to use film in wooden bookform plate holders with card, but not the metal film holders.

Ian
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12th July 2016, 10:17 PM
alexmuir alexmuir is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
Posts: 2,668
Default

It probably depends on the quality of the film you intend using. By that, I mean how much it costs. I have used card behind cut film in the double sided wooden plate holders. They have a sort of metal insert that acts as a spring to push the plate forward. I just used a piece of thin corrugated card behind the film, and it worked quite well. My film was smaller, though, being 3.5x2.5". The film I was using was old, and I was really using it on an experimental basis. I may have been less inclined to experiment if it had been expensive new stock.
Alex.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 13th July 2016, 09:25 AM
Lostlabours Lostlabours is offline
Friend
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: West Midlands/Aegean
Posts: 1,988
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alexmuir View Post
It probably depends on the quality of the film you intend using. By that, I mean how much it costs. I have used card behind cut film in the double sided wooden plate holders. They have a sort of metal insert that acts as a spring to push the plate forward. I just used a piece of thin corrugated card behind the film, and it worked quite well. My film was smaller, though, being 3.5x2.5". The film I was using was old, and I was really using it on an experimental basis. I may have been less inclined to experiment if it had been expensive new stock.
Alex.
Plates are held quite differently in wooden double darkslide book form holders as each edge sits against a wooden lip. So cardboard works reasonably well to hold film in place.

However in metal single plate holders the plate is only held in place at each end, the proper adapters hold the film on three sides. So unless the film is stuck to card it won't sit flat, you can read of eople using honey or simila to do this, personally I don't think it's worth the effort.

What's needed is "Cut film sheaths", there's some on Ebay but at far to high a price at the moment.

Ian
Reply With Quote
Reply
Support our Sponsors, they keep FADU free:   AG Photographic   The Imaging Warehouse   Process Supplies   RH Designs   Second-hand Darkroom Supplies  

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Glass Plate query alexmuir Alternate printing processes 2 24th January 2016 06:59 PM
WTB: 10x8 darkslide filmholders DaveP Sale or Wanted 0 13th January 2014 10:55 PM
WTB Spare darkslide for 8x10 Fidelity holder andreios Sale or Wanted 1 19th December 2013 04:49 PM
Toyo 4X5 darkslide Puggie Sale or Wanted 1 5th September 2011 07:00 PM
4x5 glass plate darkslide wiesmier Sale or Wanted 1 15th September 2010 09:55 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.