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Old 30th September 2020, 06:22 AM
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Sorry, Stocky. I didnít notice your location. No doubt prices will be different all over. Your point about DDXís strength is a good one. Iíve read that some people dilute it 1+6 quite happily and even 1+9. It would be good if Ilford gave us some accurate info about that but they seem quite happy for people to use more of their product at 1+4 for obvious reasons.
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Old 30th September 2020, 08:05 AM
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I mix up ID-68 from ingredients and that satisfies my need to use a more economical speed increasing developer but I must admit that the initial setup costs (a 10 year supply of phenidone, kilograms of various other ingredients) make the saving an illusion I suppose. I do use most of the same ingredients for paper developer and there is a saving there.
I used Microphen and later ID-68 replenished, it's the most economic way.

Later I used ID-11 replenished in deep tanks but kept using ID-68 for push processing HP5.

Phenidone keeps well I still ahve some Ilford Phenidone made in 1961

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Phenidone keeps well I still ahve some Ilford Phenidone made in 1961

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Thanks pretty good Ian. I suspect and, in my own case know, that some of us haven't kept that well since 1961

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Old 18th October 2020, 11:03 AM
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DD-X works perfectly well diluted further than 1+4. I made some notes in the early 2000s and its qualities are remarkably similar to Microphen and diluting it to 1+9 is akin to using Microphen diluted instead of stock. In fact, this suggests to me that using it at 1+4 is a bit wasteful.

Ilford's David Carper stated in one 2004 discussion:
"You will get finer grain with the DD-X than with the MICROPHEN, although not quite as much shadow detail (film speed). The grain will be similar to ID-11 1+1 or slightly finer"

Use DD-X 1+9 and develop for 150% of Ilford's (or your own) time for 1+4.

DD-X is more convenient than powder but I've found no other advantage over ID-11 used at 1+1 or 1+3.
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Surely Xtol run as a replenishment system has got to be the world's best and cheapest ready-made developer. Here in Australia it costs me about 30 cents per film. That's about 17p in UK money. And it is extraordinarily long lived. The batch I mixed in 2007 is still going strong at a replenishment rate of 90ml per film.
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Old 19th October 2020, 02:19 PM
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I'm as tight-fisted as they come and for medium speed films would use a one shot 1:50 dilution of Foma's R09. The concentrate lasts almost for ever and the dilution needs only 6 ml of concentrate for 35 mm film.
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I bought some fotospeed FD10 5L . from AG the price is £31.30 ,I have a roll of FP4 to develope I will give it a go in FD10 maybe tonight ,I will let you know how I get on ......




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I hope you have some smaller bottles to decant the 5 litres Paul, for I buy in larger amounts as well, as the savings can be really good. But, if left in the 5 litre container (especially developer), oxidation will occur and bang goes the savings. That is unless you use it often enough to leave it as is?

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thanks Terry Yes I decant in to smaller bottles ,did you have a look at my x-ray photos ,I put on my Albums ,they are not that good but they are just to show the quality of the x-ray film ..
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Old 20th October 2020, 03:22 PM
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thanks Terry Yes I decant in to smaller bottles ,did you have a look at my x-ray photos ,I put on my Albums ,they are not that good but they are just to show the quality of the x-ray film ..
Yes, I had a quick look last night on my phone Paul. I will check them out on my computer screen later on.

I was quite surprised with the tonal range you got, as I was under the impression x-ray film was really high contrast, but you've showed me other wise.

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