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Old 17th October 2011, 10:29 AM
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Question Blue toner

A very good morning to you all. Please can some one give some advice.I would like to try Tim rudmans blue toner,it's page 74 in it has a preservative (thymol 1 % solution in alcohol) I looked on the the net to buy some,and apparently it's for fungus nail treatment,is this ok to use!. I'm a little confussed. Many thanks Tonytrot.
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Old 17th October 2011, 12:33 PM
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Tony,
I have made that toner without the preservative and it works just fine. I usually use it within a month or so of making it and have found no need for the thymol but with any longer storage it may be needed.

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Old 17th October 2011, 02:46 PM
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Thymol is best obtained from a bee keeping supplier as it is used for varroa mite control in hives - If you just need a few grammes, PM me and I'll pop some in the post.
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Old 18th October 2011, 09:05 AM
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Thymol is best obtained from a bee keeping supplier as it is used for varroa mite control in hives - If you just need a few grammes, PM me and I'll pop some in the post.
Hi Paul,thanks for the offer,i've got some on order.Paul do you mix thymol with water,or alcohol as the preservative,if so how much! Many thanks Paul.
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Old 18th October 2011, 02:12 PM
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Do you mix thymol with water,or alcohol as the preservative,if so how much!
I mixed a 30% solution using Isopropyl alcohol, but you would probably be better off with a 10% or 1% to keep the maths simple.

1 gramme in 100ml of IPA would be my starting point for a 1% solution. A word of caution - Try not to get Thymol on your skin, it is a strong irritant. Not painful, but you certainly know where the point of contact is very quickly. Wash with soap & water to remove any splashes on the skin.
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Old 18th October 2011, 06:32 PM
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I mixed a 30% solution using Isopropyl alcohol, but you would probably be better off with a 10% or 1% to keep the maths simple.

1 gramme in 100ml of IPA would be my starting point for a 1% solution. A word of caution - Try not to get Thymol on your skin, it is a strong irritant. Not painful, but you certainly know where the point of contact is very quickly. Wash with soap & water to remove any splashes on the skin.
Cheers paul,for your advice! Tony trot.
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Old 26th October 2011, 10:16 AM
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Tony,
I also got mine from a bee keeper. The crystals do not dissolve easily in water hence requirement for alcohol- I used methanol- but iso-propyl alcohol would be as good.

You can get them from here (http://www.paynesbeefarm.co.uk/varro...crystals-100g/) for about £6 per 100g.

Tim R's recipe works pretty well.

Look forward to seeing your efforts!

Niall

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Old 28th October 2011, 09:07 PM
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I know it's not quite the same thing, but I thought I'd mention this.

I have a boxed, unopened 1 litre bottle of the now discontinue Ilford Cooltone Developer looking for a good home. I am not going to get round to using it, just asking the recipient to pay the postage. I have a bottle of Warmtone gathering dust too.
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Old 28th October 2011, 09:28 PM
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We were given both CT dev and CT paper on the 2006 tour of Harman so unfortunately I cannot separate the effect of the CT paper from the CT dev as I used them together but certainly together it produced a very cold toned print that had a distinctly blue/grey look to it.

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Old 29th October 2011, 07:24 AM
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I know it's not quite the same thing, but I thought I'd mention this.

I have a boxed, unopened 1 litre bottle of the now discontinue Ilford Cooltone Developer looking for a good home. I am not going to get round to using it, just asking the recipient to pay the postage. I have a bottle of Warmtone gathering dust too.
That's a generous offer Simon that I hope will be of interest to someone here.
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