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Old 1st October 2015, 02:26 PM
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Ilford Warmtone paper becomes colder with age that may be the cause of your colour shift Alan.

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That's interesting Ian. The box I'm using is a few years old. Would there be any difference between different brands of selenium toner? I was using Ilford/Harman when I got warm tones, but have been using some old Kodak selenium toner lately.

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Well I notice Ilford Warmtone paper went cooler in a year, Forte Polywarmtone was the same.

There might be a slight difference in the toners I only use KRST.

It's possibly the developer, it gets warm during a session as the Bromide level builds up, in addition shorter development times or using the developer slightly more dilute help increase the warmth, too long a development time cools the warmth.

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Old 1st October 2015, 03:36 PM
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Thanks Ian. Plenty of variables then, to keep life interesting!

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I met someone on the last Ilford tour I went on in 2008 and he swore by Ilford PQ developer, claiming that it was noticeably warmer than Ilford MG developer. he was so impressed by PQ that on APUG he even used it as his forum name. I have never used anything except MG developer since starting in 2003

Can anyone here confirm that Ilford PQ is noticeably warmer when developing say Ilford RCMG paper and how does it compare in warmth to Bromophen?

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To be honest, I and also most buyers are not interested in subtle colour shifts. Most of which are only apparent under very particular lighting.

In answer to the OPs question, I have used Dokumol at 1 + 6 (developing time minimum 3 minutes) for very many years and it suits my work perfectly. Of course this is just a 'taste' question but it is hard working, lasts long, gives a 1/2 grade increase in contrast and, most importantly for me personally, lets me make prints that look contrasty but with detail from Zone III to Zone VIII very easily.

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I have a few 11x14 photographs that were printed on Ilford Multigrade FB matt with particularly strong blacks which were developed in ADOX Neutol NE.
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Slightly modified DS 14 is what I use lately
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I feel very comfortable using D-163 with Fomabrom Variant 111. D-163 is easy to prepare at home and offers a bit customization if you vary the Potassium Bromide quantity.
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I feel very comfortable using D-163 with Fomabrom Variant 111. D-163 is easy to prepare at home and offers a bit customization if you vary the Potassium Bromide quantity.
Ahh! Another believer.
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