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I haven't had the time for a while, to mix up any more of the formulas available, but the ones that I tried didn't do anything for me. When I have more time, I'm going to carry on trying. The main thing that I got from Easy Lith, was being formaldehyde free and the developing times are quite short. I've still got a little left in the small bottle I bought, but if you want to try it, the bigger bottles work out much cheaper. And yes, reviews of different home mixed formulas are mixed and seeing some of the end results, the reviewers seem happy with them, but they've not been to my taste. The only real way to see what they look like, is to try them. Finally, there's been much talk about how good Fotospeed LD20 Lith was. I bought and tried a trial kit once and it gave me the look that I wanted straightaway. Regretfully it was discontinued by the manufacturer and they haven't released the formula. If they remade it or released the formula, many people would be very happy - including me. It would be like Christmas coming again, and again...! Terry S P.S. Here is a link to a lith print I did for a Print Exchange, with Easy Lith. Just starting out, so admittedly a bit too dark, but it will show you what I got. The second link is the straight b/w version: http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...php/photo/2896 http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...php/photo/2637 And here is one I made with a home mixed developer, but no where in my letter to the recipient do I mention which one it was that I tried!! Arrghhhh!!!! I have an inkling, so when I have time, I will try again: http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...php/photo/1903 Terry S Last edited by Terry S; 8th January 2022 at 12:51 PM. |
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On fogged paper, the Agfa Portriga-speed paper I used for my first print was fogged like crazy. Like, zone III fogged when developed unexposed in regular paper dev. But the lith prints turned out beautiful! Here's a photo of them: The left one is my first serious attempt. Sheet 3 in the developer. Snatched it just a tad too late to my taste, but I'm still very happy with it. The right one was my 4th sheet, in the developer for over an hour and couldn't get the infectious development to start anymore. Developer was probably completely dead. Quote:
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https://archive.org/details/1FBDoQTI...e/n15/mode/2up
The above link will take you to a couple of Agfa Lith. developers, one having no formaldehyde content. Agfa 79 and 81. I am not sure if it is the sort of thing you want. The site that they are on is an internet library with books on all sorts of subjects. I think all are free to use, some do require you to sign in, but still free for books like the Darkroom Cookbook. Kodak, Ilford, Agfa are a few of the many titles available, new and old. Well worth a look when it's awet playtime and you cannot get out. Cheeers.
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Thank you Nat. Interesting to know that older formulas can be found this way, I wasn't aware of that!
To be honest, I don't really know what I'm looking for yet... Just started experimenting with Easy Lith last week and I see myself experimenting with it a lot more. In order to cut the cost a little I thought it might be worth it to mix my own lith developer. But by no means do I think I could do a better job than Wolfgang Moersch... I'm reading more and more mixed results about homebrew lith developers from other people online, making it a bit difficult for me to determine wheter or not I'd want to go this route or just accept the cost of something like Easy Lith or SE5. Based on Terry's and Uwe's posts, I think it might be wise to stick with pre-mixed developer for at least a little longer. Things are probably not as straight-forward as they seemed in the first place and I think I'd be lacking a lot of experience with regard to debugging homebrew stuff... |
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Hi here is a post on easy lith that may shed so light at the bottom of the blog page is a link to the results. That maybe of interest
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Interesting link. Mitchand thanks. The mention of fumes in the darkroom as a result of lith printing is one I hadn't considered. This is maybe because if it was mentioned elsewhere it was not emphasised enough for me to perceive it as a problem
Does lith printing really need external light proof ventilation and if so is this still required with a Nova or only with open trays? Do I take it that with Easy Lith no snatch point is reached? I recall Tim Rudman making a lot of the snatch point being very important and one that can only be seen using open trays which brings me back to the need for ventilation. You will have gathered by now that while I have a reasonable-sized darkroom( about 7 x9.5 feet and 7.5 fee high) I have no external ventilation and with normal b&w print processing have never felt the need for it. Thanks Mike |
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@Mike: With Easy Lith there's no real need for more ventilation other than for normal B&W, or at least that's what I've understood of it. But with other Lith formulas (other than Moersch) there's a good chance they contain formaldehyde, which is said to be carciogenic. Again, that's what I've read of it. Since ventilation is minimal in my darkroom, I've ordered a respirator to use with regular black and white as well. At least until I can improve vetilation a bit. Easy Lith definitely reaches the snatch point and gives wonderful results, so definitely a good start to get into lith! In my last print the developer was almost certainy simply exhausted. Hence my remark of foreseeing things getting costly, because of the relatively low yield of (any) lith developer. |
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If you think about "rolling your own" ... please keep in mind that HQ does nt dissolve in water very well. Yu have firs make a solution if it in PPG or PEG.
All othe substances may be put in as powder. |
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That's good advice Uwe, thanks!
For now I think it's wise if I'd stick with the commercial stuff, but I might consider otherwise in the future... |
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