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Old 6th January 2024, 01:40 PM
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I would also recommend the developer Rodinal now with the old one shot developer in mind. Beware, R09 is the old formula, which seems not to last as long as the latest formula, which is now sold as Rodinal by Adox, who acquired the brand some time ago. Can be found at our sponsor AG Photo: https://www.ag-photolab.co.uk/produc...rodinal-500ml/ .
And five pounds cheaper here, so worth looking around:

https://www.firstcall-photographic.c...a-500ml/p12948

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Edit: I've just noticed that my link is for 'Adonal', which says:

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Adonal is made to the same formulation as Rodinal and is an acutance enhancing film developer. You should achieve identical results, albeit that it offers more fine-grain while still l enhancing sharpness and acutance.
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Excatly the same receipe as original Agfa Rodinal, but now renamed ‘Adox’ Rodinal after the demise of Agfa Photo in 2005.
So are they both the same product, but with different names? It's just strange that ADOX have two products, with both supposedly being the same - or not?

And just checking the Adox website, they list both names together for Rodinal:

https://www.adox.de/Photo/adox-film-...odinal-adonal/

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Old 6th January 2024, 08:49 PM
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Hi Terry,
They produced the developer already and marketed it as Adonal, because the brand name was then in other hands. Years later they could buy the brand "Rodinal", the original name. They kept Adonal for the same developer, which was not a wise decision, and have both name since. They should have completely changed to Rodinal only.
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Old 6th January 2024, 11:35 PM
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There are multiple similar versions of Rodinal - it is a very old formulation, and changed several times over many years. It is possible for there to be many similar versions on the market at the same time, and each one can refer to itself as being the same as (one of the versions of) original Rodinal.
This article hints at the complexity: http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Rodinal
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would love some input as to best developers now.
You can't go wrong with D76 or ID11. Xtol is similar and is considered to be more eco friendly.
These are mixed to stock solutions by dissolving the dry components in water.

If you prefer liquid developers, there are plenty to choose from.
Something like Ilfosol3 or Fotospeed FD10 should get you up and running to start with.
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Old 7th January 2024, 10:25 AM
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You can't go wrong with D76 or ID11. Xtol is similar and is considered to be more eco friendly.
These are mixed to stock solutions by dissolving the dry components in water.

If you prefer liquid developers, there are plenty to choose from.
Something like Ilfosol3 or Fotospeed FD10 should get you up and running to start with.
This is very good advice. ID11 at a dilution of 1 part developer to 2 parts water gives excellent results. Ilfosol 3 is also very good.

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It's fascinating to read about the one-shot developers from the past, like the Neofin series. While these specific products may not be available anymore, it's interesting to see how modern equivalents, like Rodinal, compare in terms of results and convenience. Does anyone use these newer developers for their vintage cameras? I'd love to hear how they perform with different films.
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Back then I used to process my B & W film in a one shot developer which came in small, brown bottles with a snap off
sounds like Rodina. I use it with Ilford Delta 100. Superb!
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Old 13th January 2024, 11:16 PM
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You can still get Neofin Blue in one-shot bottles. I have no idea if it is the same formulae of old though (which used pyrocatechin IIRC).

There used to be few developers sold in that format back in the day from what I have seen for sale on eBay in the past...
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