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Old 12th July 2019, 11:45 AM
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I print in a format which is best suited to the image. Limiting yourself to the format of the camera you are using is a bit like the tail wagging the dog. Surely the format must be what is best for the image. The advantage of square format is you have maxium choice of format, you can always crop out any unsuitable part of the negative but you can't add in any part where you have composed too tight in the camera..

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I totally agree with your comments above Alex (and here comes the but... ) but if it all goes well and one ends up with a square negative that has a good composition without cropping, printing it full frame is like the icing on the cake. It gives one that little bit more of a sense of achievement and to my eyes anyway, looks really good.

(And of course one could also say the same about printing full frame on a 35mm etc neg as well, but we are talking about square prints on this thread.)

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The decision to crop, or not is also related to the type of camera. Most TLRs have a fixed focal length, which sometimes necessitates the inclusion of more ‘ background’ than you would like. Interchangeable lenses, on Hasselblad, Bronica etc make it easier to produce a finished composition in camera. I do, however, like to produce a square print from a square negative, even if it involves a degree of cropping.
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I tnd to agree with Alex, all of my MF cameras are fixed lenses, and I do sometimes need to crop a little, I tend to have my maskng frame set to the square negative and if needs be I will crop within the square frame,although I prefer not to crop if I can help it
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I see that Wilko sell square photo-frames.

https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-bl...12in/p/0436372
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I use 12" x 16" paper but I often print the whole 6x6 neg for club competitions. I even bought a glass anti-Newton carrier so that I could print the edge numbering and the two Hasselblad notches, just to emphasise that this was a real photograph, taken with a proper camera. And to gild the lily I cut the regulation 40 x 50cm mount square. So there!

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I use 12" x 16" paper but I often print the whole 6x6 neg for club competitions. I even bought a glass anti-Newton carrier so that I could print the edge numbering and the two Hasselblad notches, just to emphasise that this was a real photograph, taken with a proper camera. And to gild the lily I cut the regulation 40 x 50cm mount square. So there!
What size do you enlarge to?

My negative masks for the 6x6 format are not wide enough to show the clear film rebate.
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I use 12" x 16" paper but I often print the whole 6x6 neg for club competitions. I even bought a glass anti-Newton carrier so that I could print the edge numbering and the two Hasselblad notches, just to emphasise that this was a real photograph, taken with a proper camera. And to gild the lily I cut the regulation 40 x 50cm mount square. So there!
At the end of the day, it's the image that counts, not the numbering, not the notches or even the mount. If the image fails to cut it your work is all in vain.
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I use 12" x 16" paper but I often print the whole 6x6 neg for club competitions. I even bought a glass anti-Newton carrier so that I could print the edge numbering and the two Hasselblad notches, just to emphasise that this was a real photograph, taken with a proper camera.
Sorry to say, but over the years I have seen digitally taken pictures projected in competitions, complete with the rebates that you do on your darkroom prints, with it all done in PS. It appears that the line between digital and analogue has got thinner still and it is now much harder to tell one from the other, the majority of the time.

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What size do you enlarge to?

My negative masks for the 6x6 format are not wide enough to show the clear film rebate.
The answers are hidden deeply in the text. A square negative, printed on 12x16" paper, gives a 12" square print. Your glassless neg carrier cannot reveal the edge marking because it is opaque. If you file it wider it won't keep the neg flat, so you have to use glass. But glass risks Newton rings, so the side in contact with the film base must be textured to prevent this.
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No-one mentioned that you can't buy square paper. So if we are printing square, we can trim the paper before exposing and make the perfect test strip!
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