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Old 17th November 2020, 12:50 PM
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We must do everything we can to avoid rewriting history as is being done here in the states. Some deeds of our predecessors are offensive yet must be seen as they are.
I completely agree with you, I am a local amateur historian, and my belief is that without our history there can be no future, our past shapes our future, and the past, good or bad, must be preserved, this period was the worst for the channel islands is modern history, which is why I am going to embark on photographing these,
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We must do everything we can to avoid rewriting history as is being done here in the states. Some deeds of our predecessors are offensive yet must be seen as they are.
I agree in principle, however it may depend on who's version of history we are to believe.

As photographer's, we are the recorders of out time but what do our photographs tell of truth or reality?

Even if all the exposures of every image that has ever been taken were added up together, it would still only be a tiny fraction of human existence and the existence of our planet.

Perhaps the more ubiquitous, diverse and democratic the medium of recording and recorders, the more fair the voice and representation of history?
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Old 17th November 2020, 05:28 PM
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Getting back on to photographic subjects, I had thought about photographing some of the moveable bridges in the Middlesbrough area.

There are some fabulous old bridges in the area which in their day would lift up out of the way of shipping/river barges.

Of course the most iconic is the Transporter Bridge - but it has been well covered by many others.

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ps - does anyone have any Gasometers left in their area - photograph them quick before they are all finally removed.
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Following what Richard has said about WW2 bunkers on the island where he lives and the history associated with them brings to mind a visit to the Channel port of Le Treport ( or thereabouts) I made about 1984. I was camping with my family and my then 12 year old son and we explored the dunes and scrubby cliffs on the edge of the sea. We came across one of Hitler's massive armoured gun emplacements, again built by slave labour. There was a great open jaw, the casemate where once a huge gun, longer than a bus, would have swept an arc that could have knocked anything out of the sea within 10 or 20 miles. All of the entrances had been cemented over with concrete blocks. However, there was one broken entrance and we both peered through a tiny gap, shining a torch into the darkness. There was an antechamber, an iron handrail and steps descending. On the lintel above was an instruction written in Germanic script. The image of that script has stayed with me over time. Yet I'd left my camera back at camp. We retreated and mused about the chambers that lay beneath. About 15 years later I found the casement again only this time all the entrances had been ripped asunder. The onetime gaunt walls were now riven with psychedelic graffiti. Sunlight shone through the open jaw of the casemate and I ran-off a dozen frames of Agfachrome though they were nothing to write home about. Much of the dreadful history that the fortress represented lay buried beneath veneers of cellulose spray paint..
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I need to open up my mind about graffiti, I was raised not to vandalise other peoples property. I have never seen any graffiti that I would like on my house. Not even a Banksey. I have never been inspired to photograph graffiti, when I see it sprayed on trees and on rock faces in the Peak District it sickens me. Some graffiti is quite witty or satirical but it still annoys me. I wish the people that do graffiti would find another way to express themselves, just because a building has been vacated it does not give people the right to vandalise it. Apologies for the rant, this lockdown is getting to me! There is an old wire works at Ambergate that I am planning on visiting once lockdown is lifted, I hope to make some photographs if the trees are not obscuring it too much.
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Out of consideration for those German members of FADU, it’s probably worth pointing out that captured German soldiers were also used as slave/forced labour during and particularly after the war and were treated just as callously in many instances.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forc...r_World_War_II



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Uhm..........errrrrr...........oh nevermind.
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Out of consideration for those German members of FADU, it’s probably worth pointing out that captured German soldiers were also used as slave/forced labour during and particularly after the war and were treated just as callously in many instances.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forc...r_World_War_II



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Fair comment.
People trafficking and the exploitation of people as slave labour still exists, it would be a brave person who took on the job of getting photographic evidence to expose the scum who perpetuate such inhuman suffering.
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I think what this shows is that no Nation, race, religion or doctrinaire can feel complacent about their behaviour past or present.

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