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Old 29th January 2021, 04:13 PM
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Sorry Mitch,
Which film did you mean?
Fomapan infrared.
another case of fingers not doing what my mind was tell them
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Thanks Nat for all the info. Your picture is what I was looking to do and with fomapan infrared.
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Thank you everyone for all the info I should have asked the question first here, instead of running round the net.
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Nice shot, Nat. The only drawback in comparison with say Ilford SFX is possibly the final speed. 1/8th at f8 is certainly not hand-holdable for me whereas with a 5 stop reduction for SFX is about 1/25th at f8 which just about gets me into the hand-holdable range and with the likes of a 28mm lens covers most shots in terms of a large enough DoF

What it boils down to is whether SFX gives the same IR look or is it inferior?

Let me add that I recognise that SFX is nowadays the more expensive film so that's an added drawback

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I havenít come across Foma Infrared film. Is it new to the market? I have used Rollei in the past, and also agree with the suggestion of a 6 stop increase in exposure when metering directly, and not via the filter itself. I have tried that, but results will inevitably vary, depending on the sensitivity of the particular meter to Infrared radiation. You do get the white foliage with the Rollei film, but itís not the same as the Kodak film used to produce. This is due to the Rollei film having an anti-halation layer.
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Old 30th January 2021, 07:51 PM
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One of our sponsors, Silverprint has Rollei Retro 80 and 400 for sale.
They say good infra red shots can be taken using the appropriate filter.
Worth reading their advert.

I have no experience with Rollei Retro but may give it a try when my small stock of Rollei IR expires.

The use by dates on my IR films are very short dated so do not go stocking up loads.
Better it goes off on their shelf than yours.
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> Rollei Retro 80 and 400

I used both films with infrared. They can be used with a 720 nm filter. This is no "deep infrared" but you get a black sky and a nice Wood effect. Guessing the exposure time is problematic. At a starting point, you may use the readings of your meter and add 5-6 stops.
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Mitch, these are Ilford SFX using Ilford's own deep red filter:
http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...pictureid=3509

http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...pictureid=3510

These are Rollei IR400 through a 720Nm filter:
http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...php/photo/2471

http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...php/photo/2442

Note, the SFX is 35mm, while the Rollei is 120, hence the different apparent graininess. Neither is anything like the old Kodak HIE, sadly. With the Kodak I set the Minolta to 400, fitted an 8X red and got lovely, dramatic results just shooting on 'auto'.
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Big boo boo you are right it is Rollei not Foma. I have been using Foma 400 a lot and printing it using foma paper. I have not had a drink I think I need to drink more won't make so may mistakes

Ok! the procedure is to meter the scene then subtract six stops, put the filter on and make the picture. or is that to simple.

I've used Rollie retro I found it to be a very smooth grain wise with a good level of contrast.
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Ok! the procedure is to meter the scene then subtract six stops, put the filter on and make the picture. or is that to simple.
.....or set your meter to 6 stops below your normal EI......so instead of 400, set to 6, then meter as usual and fit the filter after composing and focussing

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