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Old 8th November 2012, 08:08 PM
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Default The shocking price of gold toners

I have not bought gold toner for a while but when I visited one of our sponsor's websites I was shocked to find it was £65.23 per litre. Another of our sponsors sells the same toner for £44.00 per litre but this could be old inventory and their next consignment may be more expensive.

At these prices its almost more cost effective importing gold chloride from the US and making my own.

When did gold toner get so expensive? I remember paying about £35 per litre when I last bought it. Thank goodness its so stable.
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It's the high cost of Gold now at record highs, that makes the manufacturing costs higher but then that gets exaggerated by the profit margins and then mark ups by distributor/retailer.

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At Artcraft Chemicals in the US the price is 45$ US for 1 gram.
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How to make a gold toner from gold chloride ?
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Yes I fear that until we finally escape the economic downturn and uncertainty that lies behind the rush to gold and silver we are stuck with high prices for photographic materials containing such elements

So no relief any time soon is my prediction. Pity. I saw a Dave Miller sea shot a couple of years ago that had such a nice cold grey/blue look that I thought was superb

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I rekon there is so little gold in gold toner that you would be far better advised to work out how to make gold chloride. Then go to an antique fair and pick up a few pieces gold jewelry dirt cheap, melt em down and make the stuff yourself. Might be fun doing some real alchemy.
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How to make a gold toner from gold chloride ?
There are a number of relatively simple formulae for gold toner one such formula is GAF231 which is

Distilled water 750ml
Ammonium Thiocyanate* 105g
Gold Chloride 1%solution 60ml
Cold water to make 1000ml

* Suitable substitues are

Sodium Thiocyanate 110G
Potassium Thiocyanate 135g
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I rekon there is so little gold in gold toner that you would be far better advised to work out how to make gold chloride. Then go to an antique fair and pick up a few pieces gold jewelry dirt cheap, melt em down and make the stuff yourself. Might be fun doing some real alchemy.
I have read that the manufacture of gold chloride is an unpleasant process using chlorine gas. Not one for the home chemist I feel.
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Yes I fear that until we finally escape the economic downturn and uncertainty that lies behind the rush to gold and silver we are stuck with high prices for photographic materials containing such elements

So no relief any time soon is my prediction. Pity. I saw a Dave Miller sea shot a couple of years ago that had such a nice cold grey/blue look that I thought was superb

Mike
Given manufacturer's pricing poilicies at the moment Idoubt the price would drop even if the price of gold fell. Or am I just getting too cynical in my old age?
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I have read that the manufacture of gold chloride is an unpleasant process using chlorine gas. Not one for the home chemist I feel.
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