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Old 13th November 2017, 02:43 PM
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Default My way with 'Farmer's Reducer'

I did a VIDEO on how I use Howard Farmer's Reducer, showing the chemicals and the 'Darkroom Magic' to improve dark prints. You can see it here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4dS75Lt3-w&t=61s
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nice one pete ,but when will you do the smelly one





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Just a pity, Pete, that you showed the before and after prints of the scene where, based on your own comment, the difference was less than in the other prints. A great pity that you had to do everything by yourself. A cameraman and production run through prior to the "shoot" would, I feel, have made a big difference to its instructional value.

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Come on Mike! A pretty unfair comment don’t you think? I enjoyed the video and seeing Pete’s method of using farmers. He admitted it wasnt perfect having to hold the camera as well as do the processing but whatever - it worked for me. Whenever anyone steps up and presents something on the internet there’s always someone pipes up from the comfort of their computer desk to criticise and make suggestions. Yet we never see anything they actually do themselves apart from, well, comment!
Thanks to Pete for taking time and effort to do these videos. Enjoyed them very much.


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Just a pity, Pete, that you showed the before and after prints of the scene where, based on your own comment, the difference was less than in the other prints. A great pity that you had to do everything by yourself. A cameraman and production run through prior to the "shoot" would, I feel, have made a big difference to its instructional value.

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Come on Mike! A pretty unfair comment don’t you think? I enjoyed the video and seeing Pete’s method of using farmers. He admitted it wasnt perfect having to hold the camera as well as do the processing but whatever - it worked for me. Whenever anyone steps up and presents something on the internet there’s always someone pipes up from the comfort of their computer desk to criticise and make suggestions. Yet we never see anything they actually do themselves apart from, well, comment!
Thanks to Pete for taking time and effort to do these videos. Enjoyed them very much.
Thanks for that Pete. I've had varying success with Farmer's. I usually end up over-bleaching and losing highlight detail. It's very timely as I've recently been given a load of old, slightly fogged paper and would love to use it. Most of it is Kentmere Art Classic which has a lovely texture. I used a bit of benzotriazole to suppress the fog but the highlights are still a bit grey.

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I think it is fair so say Pete's videos fall on the "informal" side of video production, but they are no less interesting for that.

One thing I like is that they show people that you don't (usually) need to measure chemicals to the nearest microgramme. Got a couple of plastic teaspoons? That'll do!

I also appreciate the non-nonsense warnings: don't breath it, don't eat it & don't wash in it and you'll be fine (almost always...).

Cheers Pete, keep up the good work in getting the word out there.
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Pete and others, I certainly wasn't having a go at the video. I was merely trying to say that it was a pity that Pete had the burden of instructing, scripting and shooting by himself so was single-handed in both senses of the word i.e. on his own and literally one-handed. Could I have done as well on my own - not a chance - but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

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When I use Farmer's Reducer I use my test strips and work prints to gauge how long I need to leave my best print in the F.R. solution. I also prefer a very dilute solution in order to give me more time to see what is happening. Better to take your print out early and wash it, you can always put it back in the Farmer's solution if its not how you want it. Well done Pete, another entertaining Vlog on the dark arts, (why didn't you put your camera on your tripod?).
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Thanks all -- well I tried to put camera on tripod leaning over my Darkroom Sink and it almost fell over -- and Camera is actually my BOY's and I have to borrow it ! Then YouTube discontinued their 'Video Editor' where I had at last learnt how to 'join Clips' so I have to do it all in 'One Take' without stopping as Daughter has a 'Mac' and can at a pinch help me to join BUT I have to supply clips on a memory stick for her then cannot download the 'Joined Clips' to my Windows system as it in 'Mac' form.
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ok you will never make a Hollywood producer but one thing comes out loud and clear is that you know what you are talking about .I do love the one on the pentax 6x7 cameras as this will be my next buy ,?hopefully . thanks for sharing your knowledge with us ..
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