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spend a lot of your time promoting your work and having real exhibitions. Then if your work is saleable you might make a few quid. And most of all give the buying public what they want if you want them to part with their cash. |
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My better half (a painter) and I also do an open studio (in this case our flat) once per year where people are invited to view the work, drink seasonal glühwein, eat nibbles, socialise, view our work and (hopefully) buy some work. My better half sells much more than me at such events because people are more willing to hand out their hard earned wonga for a unique oil painting rather than a print but I always sell a few as well. Over the years, our guests have learnt what a limited edition print means and, with very little promotion from me, can see the tonal differences between digital prints and hand-made baryta prints. What I can affirm is that (whether paintings or photographs) the price that they are willing to pay has very little influence. If they want it and they have enough money they will buy it. We have been with an internet gallery for the past three years and the owner offers a great service including the possibility to see the works for real in Berlin or digitally superimposed to scale on a wall in your home (you send him a photo of, say, your living room with dimensions and he creates a photoshop image of exactly how it would look). Nevertheless, to date, no images have been sold over the internet - only when people can see 'the real thing' in the flesh (a well made baryta print suitably processed to archival standards, window-matted and framed MUST be seen by the customer if they are every going to buy it). Here in Germany there is also another market model by the firm called Lumas (http://www.lumas.de). What they do is scan works from known and unknown photographers and produce 'limited' editions of digital prints with every type of mounting including on aluminum and the ubiquitous diasec. However, although they have a website and their business model is very successful, most sales are made in store and the whole format reminds me (and probably the customers also) of the Athena poster sales concept in the early 1980s. In conclusion, if you want to sell your work, and you are not famous, forget about online models of trading and start building personal contacts with people who have enough money to pay for you prints. Quote:
Bests, David www.dsallen.de
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The web isn't everything its cracked upto be. Sure it works really well for some things but not for others.
I wrote a website for an Artist, well actually a fine art restorer but also does a lot of his own paintings. I told him beforehand he was highly unlikely to sell paintings direct from the web because people want to see them in the flesh, especially at his prices. But also told him the restoration side of his website was far more likely to generate business. And that is how its turned out. Zero online painting sales but plenty enquiries for restoration work. He puts a lot of time and effort into exhibitions he stages himself and that's where his paintings are sold. i.e. web sites work really well for some things and not for others. However, a website is a very usefull tool for directing people to yourself and giving an idea of what you're about. Backup that up with real promotion, exhibitions, invitatiosn to private viewings and it can work for you. Just don't expect to sell photos online for good money. Well maybe an occasional one or two but not enough to pay the mortgage, just beer money. |
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I would guess that the average person is the hardest person to sell to ,I have not sold many prints , but one was of a pub this gentleman used to drink in it most nights ,he spent more on the frame than I got for the photograph ,its a memory that sits on his wall ,as the pub no longer exists ,if I was a young man I would go out and photograph pubs clubs shops ,thing that in twenty years time will be worth a memory to someone, something that has local historical value ,as well as your other photography <I wish that I had taken more ,and have not lost so many negatives ,if you could work out what people will buy you would be a genius ,but if you don't try you will never know ,so set up a website there are lots of sites on the web that you can name drop on ,I love looking at other peoples websites but they must be trad photography ,as soon as I see the word dig**** it turns me of ....good luck and all the best......
www.essexcockney.com |
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You can't stop a Genius with nothing to loose.
Thank you Mike. Yes indeed. I think it would be fair to say that Ilford nicked my idea and half copied my text and concept. I guess that makes us even lol. But then it looks like Ilford have taken the more commercial route and made yet another "on demand" Getty Images with the colour switched off. Nothing special about that.
But fear not. The real website for real film photographers is up and live. As described and sorted out well before Ilford. www.Traditionalphotographer.co.uk Please put FADU in the message you send so I know your a friend of "ours" and your username on here so I can work out who is who. Come on over you are all welcome. Looking forward to having you aboard. |
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It appears that MarcAeon's account has been deleted, all posts have gone.
There is a need for a Traditional photography sales website/internet presence. Somewhere along the lines of the defunct Contact Printers Guild which is why I posted this thread. Any ideas are welcome, I'd even be prepared to host and maintain a site. Ian Last edited by Bob; 11th December 2013 at 09:22 PM. |
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Marc asked for his account to be closed & posts to be removed for external reasons. I suspect he would rather not draw attention to the fact but I'm not sure that can really be guaranteed - disappearing off the face of the Internet is not easy these days given the amount of archiving that goes on...
Cheers, Bob. Last edited by Bob; 11th December 2013 at 09:21 PM. |
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It has to be serious if he needs to attempt to eradicate his presence on the internet in total. Mike |
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There is more to the Internet than FADU?! I wondered what all those emails begging me to join dating and gambling sites were talking about (including the oh so enticingly named: findaslut.com - classy).
As far as I know it may just be FADU - I was engaging in a little light hyperbole there. His website is still alive last time I looked. Last edited by Bob; 12th December 2013 at 12:16 AM. |
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My personal opinion is that if you want to sell your work then your own site is the best option as a brochure for attracting people to your own exhibitions. There are a few decent websites of "Groups" who foster the aim of high quality photography but even some of those have given way to digital. Following are two of the best IMO but they now include digital I think. http://www.arenaphotographers.com/ http://cotswold-monochrome.co.uk/ The first organises exhibitons in various locations, the second has one major exhibit from a competition a year and that is only for a few days. Even the FADU exhibition organised by Dave has fallen by the wayside so I think what you are suggesting is a nice idea but the reality of it tends not to be practical unless someone is prepared to put a lot of ongoing time and effort into it. It really isn't viable unless the person/s giving that time is getting some financial reward for it. And that simply won't happen unless the work is of the highest quality and is of a saleable type and the exhibitions are in the right locations with good marketing, all of which costs money. I think you would find that the practicalities of running it become a real pain very quickly. But give it a shot if you think you can succeed where most of the others that have tried before have failed. |
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