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Old 28th October 2019, 03:17 PM
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Default 1 to 4 or 1 to 9 Ilford fixer

It says one dilution for film one for paper

Can I make it 1 to 4 and use it for both

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Old 28th October 2019, 04:10 PM
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Never use Film fixer with paper, the Iodide levels in film impede paper fixing and can result in staining and also with use incomplete fixing.

Mix a batch for films and a separate batcgh for paper.

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Old 28th October 2019, 04:54 PM
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It says one dilution for film one for paper

Can I make it 1 to 4 and use it for both

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1 + 4 is usually used with film and FB papers and not RC papers. This smaller dilution lowers the time that the FB paper needs to be in the fixer. It also lessens the amount of fixer that gets into the paper, and i.e. makes the washing of the paper shorter.

As said, mix different batches for the different things; with 1 + 4 for film and make a SEPARATE batch for your RC paper fixing at 1 + 9.

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Never use Film fixer with paper, the Iodide levels in film impede paper fixing and can result in staining and also with use incomplete fixing.

Mix a batch for films and a separate batcgh for paper.

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Old 28th October 2019, 05:41 PM
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better not to, while you can use 1/4 for prints it is better, I feel, to use the 1/9 and fix for longer, and fixer used for film can cause staining on prints and not fixing paper properit
Richardly, I use 1 in 9 for all paper, both RC and fiber, with fiber I use a hypo clearing agent, with RC you don't need
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What everyone else says.

It's not a problem having two batches ready to go - fixer does not oxidise quickly like developer so will store quite happily in diluted form at 1:4.

Do a film clearing test before each use and dump it when it takes between 50% and 100% longer (your choice, it is cheap enough, so I dump it at the 50% level) to clear a bit of film leader than when it was fresh. Others prefer to mix up a fresh batch each session - again, your choice.
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What everyone else says.

It's not a problem having two batches ready to go - fixer does not oxidise quickly like developer so will store quite happily in diluted form at 1:4.

Do a film clearing test before each use and dump it when it takes between 50% and 100% longer (your choice, it is cheap enough, so I dump it at the 50% level) to clear a bit of film leader than when it was fresh. Others prefer to mix up a fresh batch each session - again, your choice.
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Old 28th November 2022, 02:28 PM
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Like Ian, I always keep working solutions of film fixer separate from working solutions of paper fixer.
I have always diluted Hypam fixer 1+4 for films and papers. I use that dilution for both fibre based and resin coated papers.
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My working method is the same as Keith’s.
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My working method is the same as Keith’s.
We seem to all agree on this and the person who asked the question is banned.

It just seems to me that we may be talking to ourselves unnecessarily

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