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Bromophen v Multigrade for neutral papers
Other than the words subtle or very subtle warmth in connection to Bromophen v MG developer there seems to be very little in the way of useful information
Has anyone here got prints that they could show or refer me to that demonstrates this subtle warmth I fear I am in the category of printers on whom such subtlety may be wasted in that I will not see it but anyone's experience of the two developers in terms of differences that are clear enough to show in a print would be welcome Thanks Mike |
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For myself I prefer Bromophen for it's speed of development, it reminds me of Ilfospeed which I used as a student when you had to make the most of your allotted slot in the darkroom, one minute instead of two in the dish. Mixed 1:3 it's fast, in warm conditions or for more control I'll mix 1:4 or 1:5.
As for it's supposed warmth I can't say I've noticed. If I want warm tones I use warm tone paper and developer. I tone my neutral print warm anyway. |
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Multigrade developer was introduced because there can be slight colour.tone shifts with MG papers at different grades, so should give more consistent cool tones.
Ian |
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Thanks both. Your replies seem to confirm my suspicions that the "subtle" warmth will be too subtle for me to notice although overnight a vague memory came into my mind that someone- it may have been Rob Archer - mentioned that a greater dilution of 1+5 or even 1+7 did produce more warmth.
Usually this kind of a lower dilution is said to work longer exposure and shorter development time but as I say the memory on exactly what was said is too vague If it was Rob then he may see the thread and reply Thanks Mike |
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Bromophen has become my developer of choice over MG but more on the grounds of longevity and convenience. As a powder, it has a longer shelf life, as a stock solution, it has a longer shelf life and when diluted at 1+3 it also has a much longer working life.
The convenience, is that my 16x20" Nova processor holds 4 litres,1+3 and I believe it's cheaper. I find, it's a very robust, clean and consistent paper developer and I almost always print fb. Any warmth is slight and in my case an added advantage. Here's a pic I uploaded recently to a 6x12 thread on photrio and I believe was processed since switching to Bromophen. The paper could well be Ilford WT fb glossy, my favourite.
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However I like the tones that MG Developer produces on the MG5 and I find that it's life, undiluted is very very long. I usually buy a 5 litres bottle and decant it into 500cc screw top bottles and each 500cc makes 5 x 100cc smaller bottles each of which is enough for an average evenings printing. |
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Thanks Marty, your pic certainly isn't the cold black look but short of seeing two prints side by side, a Bromophen one and MG dev one, it is very difficult to work out how clear the difference is
Mike |
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Many thanks, Martin. It's great when it works but I certainly don't find 'seeing' in 6x12 easy. I would say most of my shots work better/stronger when cropped, unfortunately.
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