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Old 8th April 2022, 11:15 AM
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Not so, Neil, there really was a definite change. I daresay if anyone has old Ilford adverts, packaging or instructions kicking around, they'd be able to find an announcement about it.

I've not used it for a good while and I doubt if I will use it again so I'll go with the flow on this one. But TBH I never found it that hard to mix - just warmed things up a tad.

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Old 8th April 2022, 03:03 PM
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I noticed that ID-11 mixes easy too, although I have just ordered my first bottle of HC110.
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Old 8th April 2022, 03:46 PM
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OTOH - it could be folks have just got better at mixing it, through experience

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This is very true - I have got better at mixing the stuff up - but - I don't think that explains the whole of the improvement.

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Old 6th May 2022, 02:45 PM
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ID11 was the reason that I purchased a Paterson Filter Funnel in the eighties.
I too suffered with bits of grit in the developer.
Where I lived we occasionally got bits of sand coming through the water taps. After filtering that out and mixing up the ID11 there was still grit in the developer. Obviously it was in the powdered chemicals.
But the filter funnel took that out as well.

Regarding the mixing temperature, I have found an Ilford leaflet supplied with a pack of ID11.

In case anyone can understand the leaflet number data printed on it I include it here. Somebody may be able to determine the date of production from it.

16020609 F89 ................. maybe 1989 ?


The other indication of the leaflet date is a bit of legal text on the instruction sheet.


Kodak Panatomic-X, Plus-X pan and Tri-X pan are trade marks.
Names printed in capitals are ILFORD trade marks.
CIBACHROME is a CIBA-GEIGY trade mark.

Printed in England.
ILFORD Limited Mobberley Cheshire.


The instruction sheet is for Perceptol, ID11 and Microphen.
For ID11 and Perceptol it says to mix at the temperature required for processing.
For Microphen, mix in warm water at about 40C.

The end of CIBACHROME production should give some sort of indication as to when this leaflet was still being printed.

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It's nearly 40 years since I last used ID-11, we used it in deep tanks and never had any issues mixing it. There might sometimes be odd clumped Sodium Sulphite crystals when first mixed, but you need to leave it 24 hours if possible, or at least overnight before use. That allows the equilibrium compounds to stabilise, and by then everything is dissolved.

I do still mix similar high Sulphite developers occasionally, I use warm water roughly 30°C and most dissolves, the warmer on the last dregs, around 40°C.

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When I used to mix ID11 I used the temp suggested in the leaflet and kept stirring it until it was all dissolved and left it till the following day before use.
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