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Old 15th November 2017, 08:30 PM
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I agree with Edmund on his outlook on price rises, unfortunately. Besides, on both sides. The rules explained are correct. But the term "Europe" used means EU-member states and not other Eurpean states outside this club. Of course, it is more complacted than necessary in the club, because you have to pay the VAT at the rate of each country, where 19% is the German rate, but sellers in Denmark would charge 25% and sellers in Luxembourg 17%. Anyone in for a headache? https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...t_rates_en.pdf. There is a case here for deeper integration of the rules in the EU in order to stop this nonsense in a common market. Would be logical, but this is obviously not the trend.
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Old 15th November 2017, 09:29 PM
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Talking from personal experiance, Jersey is not a part of the EU, and everything I buy from within the EU, including the UK, and for my photography I buy everything mail order, it is dispatched vat free, so from that surely imports to the UK after brexit, should be vat free from the country of origin should be sent without paying vat? not sure how it works in the UK, but we do not pay GST,( our version of VAT, which, I might add we pay 4%gst on everything we buy, food clothes newspapers and magazines, everything we buy here is taxed at 4%,) but we can buy in from outside the Island, up to £250 without paying any tax, either VAT from country of origin or the local GST,
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Old 16th November 2017, 12:42 AM
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IMHO the tariff question has always been a red herring, the real issue getting industry worked up is customs clearing through ports of entry. A simple example, my brother used to be part of a specialist courier firm that had contracts with companies in the F1 world. He would get a call to do something like pick up some crankshafts to take up to a specialist heat treatment firm in say Liverpool, but just as likely they might have to carry parts to anywhere in the EU but crucially this was no more difficult that jumping in the van and driving to Liverpool, a perverse twist on our modern world is in some cases it may actually have worked out no more expensive and was as fast to hand carry rush stuff on a plane to Italy or Germany than that van drive up to Liverpool.
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Old 16th November 2017, 08:26 AM
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Talking from personal experiance, Jersey is not a part of the EU, and everything I buy from within the EU, including the UK, and for my photography I buy everything mail order, it is dispatched vat free, so from that surely imports to the UK after brexit, should be vat free from the country of origin should be sent without paying vat? not sure how it works in the UK, but we do not pay GST,( our version of VAT, which, I might add we pay 4%gst on everything we buy, food clothes newspapers and magazines, everything we buy here is taxed at 4%,) but we can buy in from outside the Island, up to £250 without paying any tax, either VAT from country of origin or the local GST,
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I had forgotten about that point. (In Bold)
I used to do the same when I was living in Germany because the price of film and chemicals was about double in Germany to the prices in UK

When I was in Germany it was possible to buy a new car in UK, free of all taxes so long as you had a posting order to go to Germany within six months after buying the car.

Then so long as you served a minimum period over there I think it was 2 years) you could bring it back also duty free, so long as you did not sell the vehicle for a period of 12 months.

If you bought a vehicle over there you could get it without the German VAT being added to the price and if you imported it to UK, it had to be declared to HM Customs and Excise, as it was then and if you had owned the vehicle for longer than 6 months no duty was payable. I got caught when I brought motor cycle back but had only owned it for 5 months and had to cough up the duty when I came though Dover.

I will not say that situation will be the same as it was then but have you any reason to think otherwise? It will almost certainly be possible to work both ways again, so long as the politicians remove their fingers from their anatomy!

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Old 9th June 2020, 11:41 AM
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I would like to resurrect this topic.
Roughly two and a half years after the original post, is anybody here any the wiser?
I have seen countless predictions for a No Deal Brexit and the UK going onto WTO terms.
But, politicians being politicians we might actually get a deal.
Without banging the drum for your favourite political stance, does anybody have an up to date business knowledge of how things would go for either scenario?
Surely the business community are preparing for either possibility, and have a working knowledge by now of what is what, either way.
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Old 9th June 2020, 12:08 PM
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No updates I think are around yet, but any taxes normally applied inside a country would be removed when it was exported. On import into UK the import duty would be applied at whatever rate that is and then VAT on top of that. It may even out because the VAT in Germany is 25% where ours is 20%.
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Old 9th June 2020, 01:01 PM
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Oooops! My information is out of date, Germany and France have a19% VAT, Belgium it is 20% and in the Netherlands it is 21% So unless our Government reduces either the Import Duty or the rate of VAT, we may end up paying more.
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Old 9th June 2020, 02:25 PM
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"we may end up paying more."
That is part of my dilemma.
I have only come back to darkroom work in the last nine or ten months after a long break.
So far I have been very happy always using Ilford materials, plus the odd expensive Kodak film and a couple of rolls of foreign infra-red.
There is a lot of appealing film, paper and chemicals made abroad.
If the prices go lower after Brexit I will be sampling and possibly sticking with some of the foreign materials. Good for the EEU.
If they go up I would try out foreign materials as an occasional treet, but without committing to long term expensive use. Bad for the EEU.
Whatever happens it will be the prices that determine my regular choices.
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I can recommend some beginner import-export training courses that might shed some light on the matter. Brexit really complicated trading laws, to be sure.
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Buying stuff on eBay from the USA or Japan is very straight forward.

You buy it, they ship it and the courier then sends you a bill for the import duty before they will deliver it.

The import duty plus VAT comes out at about 25% of the total cost = goods + shipping.

I have bought most of my Mamiya RB67 kit from Japan and have had no problems what so ever.

But, you do need to work out if buying it from abroad is going to work out as a cost save, when you have added in the extra 25%.

Most of the stuff from Japan is priced in US dollars, so the UK Pound to US Dollar relationship is often the critical thing to consider.

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