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Old 27th June 2020, 09:08 PM
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For what it may be worth to you, High Sierra, David Allen, a friend here, laid out a very comprehensive film speed testing procedure which then led on to getting the right print exposure from the then correct negative the film speed test gets you to

That procedure is here on FADU. Someone might be able to link you to it or use the search option to get to it.

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I think it's this one about personal E.I.

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What format- 120, 5x4?
Multigrade paper??

As a visual shorthand, is there a particular photographer who's work you think looks 'right' to give us an idea of what you think B&W should look like?
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All seems very complicated. Have a read at this article which outlines the procedure for finding the minimum time for maximum black and then making a proof print using this information. https://www.halfhill.com/proof.html
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I think it's this one about personal E.I.

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Thanks for this, Marty. I'll have a look through this. I had a look at a few similar threads on the forum and I see they often become polarised into very pro "testistas" or very anti testing. I gave up after a while. I think there must be merits in testing but I know I'm a bit lazy and sloppy so no doubt will fall into the suck it and see category.
I'll continue to expose my film as I have for scanning but it will be interesting to see my exposures on a dmax contact print to see how consistent they are.
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What format- 120, 5x4?
Multigrade paper??

As a visual shorthand, is there a particular photographer who's work you think looks 'right' to give us an idea of what you think B&W should look like?
35mm and 120.
My style is anywhere from James Ravilious to John Bulmer. I don't try to emulate anyone, I just take photos that I think will be interesting in a few years time, or are of emotional value like trips friends and family. I don't impose a particular style on my imaging like say, Moriyama or Ralph Gibson, I treat each image separately and generally like to have all the tones present on the negative on the final image, although I'm starting to change my view on that.
I don't consider myself to be a photographer. I just like listening to a mechanical shutter, and making an image.
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All seems very complicated. Have a read at this article which outlines the procedure for finding the minimum time for maximum black and then making a proof print using this information. https://www.halfhill.com/proof.html
Thanks for this Bill. I think I once read a couple of page of his regarding finding your own iso and film developing time. I think the page you posted is new to me.
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Old 28th June 2020, 08:37 AM
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All seems very complicated. Have a read at this article which outlines the procedure for finding the minimum time for maximum black and then making a proof print using this information. https://www.halfhill.com/proof.html
Ah, I summarised this article when I said "I'm thinking that first I'll take a strip of negatives and make a test strip contact print and find the dmax of the paper to hone in on the required paper exposure needed based on max black."
It will let me see if I'm placing the blacks in the right sort of place and help me judge if my developing time is ok to produce a good negative for the tonal range of the scene.
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Hello Pete, finding the minimum print time to get a full black on your printing paper is only useful for contact printing your negatives so you can assess them - as described in the halfhill article. It is of no practical use when making prints, for the simple reason that the minimum print time doesn't stay the same , across the grades. It varies according to what filter grade is being used. At grade 0 the "minimum print time" will be much longer than at grade 5.

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I think it's this one about personal E.I.

http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...7&postcount=25
Ah, this is what I envisaged doing. So I think I'm on the right track. I think "Tom" who's article Bill pointed to had done a couple of articles on finding your film speed and development time, and this post you've pointed to appears to summarise those articles.
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